There have been calls for Marque to hand back some of the £95,000 it received for the Glasgow 2014 logo, but The Drum's editor Richard Draycott says in an article in today's Sunday Herald that it should keep every penny.
It is only when you spend time talking to designers, such as Mark Noe at Marque, that you get an insight into how deeply designers delve into every detail of a project and how much time and resources they invest researching a project, understanding the brief, defining what their work needs to communicate, developing initial concepts, rejecting others and re-working concepts, that you understand why design projects such as these often cost what they do. The finished logo is just one part of a long and often complex process – one that, in this case, began almost a year ago.
To even suggest that the logo itself cost £95,000 demonstrates the enormous lack of understanding. That £95,000 will most likely cover pretty much everything from brand guidelines to application of the brand. Margo MacDonald was quoted as saying: “I know that when the SNP designed their iconic logo back in the Sixties, it cost them about £12. That would seem to be about the right price.”
This is laughable. We need a more informed debate on topics like this, rather than one characterised by lazy journalists looking for a bit of sensationalism or soundbite politicians jumping on bandwagons.
Mark Noe himself admitted that the identity is static in its current form, but it comes alive in exciting, different ways, so perhaps we should consider judgement after the designs are in use?
Also, the allegation that the identity looks like a previous identity is not actually all that surprising. Why would anyone ever expect a design consultancy not to draw on work that has proved immensely successful for their clients in the past? Isn’t that what a client is actually paying a design specialist for? To draw on their own design experience and to apply that experience for them in new ways.
If not then, maybe the Commonwealth Games marketing committee could have paid a student £12 to tinker around with a Mac and crank out a logo. Surely good design adds to the value of a business or an event? I am confident that by the time the runners are under starters’ orders in 2014, that £95,000 will seem like a bargain.
To read Michael Kelly's arguments for a refund click here.
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For pity's sake. Cheap tabloid journalism and uninformed politics strike again. To say the logos are the same and then wanting a refund is like buying a BMW 5 series and wanting your money back because it has four wheels, a steering wheel, and an engine - exactly like a 3 series. Oh, and a BMW badge on the front. How dare BMW charge huge prices for something they copied from a previous product! And the design agency has used circles and the letter 'G' in another logo? Truly shocking behaviour, just like my artist friend who always paints similar landscapes using the same set of oil paints. Really, he doesn't deserve to be called an artist, right?
Erm, Asanka, how will you judge whether a logo 'works'? The number of people attending the games? The number of medals won by the Scotland team?
If Marque wants to salvage some credibility here, they:
(1) should reveal how much of the £95k is fee income and how much of it is for implementation. That will silence the money-back brigade;
(2) Marque seem to have been outstandingly naive in proposing a logo with obvious similarities to their previous work. Surely they knew this would come under the spotlight. They should come out into the open and explain what happened that forced/allowed them to do it. Maybe the client saw the Guild logo and said 'we want something like that'.
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The thing that staggers me with Margo McDonald, and something that I don't think anyone has taken her idiotic comments to task over, is that whilst she rambles on about the SNP logo costing '£12' back in the day, I wonder if she'd like to reveal how much money her party are spending on branding this year, an election tear noless? Or how about the SNP's disastrous rebranding in the 90s – remember that? The swastika-esque re-imagining of their £12 logo? Which then was rebranded to become a bunny's head with a star. How much did that cost, even in the early 90s, and how much, tellingly, did it cost to re-rebrand (as Craig David probably never said) and take their logo back to it's '£12' original?
A bit more than £12 all-in eh?
Ill-informed and egotistical, McDonald is not unique as far as MPs go, but this idiocy is something special.
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